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			<title>jsmirnio on "Asuro Modifications"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/436#post-2355</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>jsmirnio</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Congratulations on your successful modifications of the ASURO robot platform.  Based on your experience, is it possible (and worthwhile) to modify the robot to add a 3.3V or 5v regulator for the MCU supply - while retaining a 5.8 (NiCd or NiMH) or 6V (alkaline) supply for the H-bridge circuit?&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;Your advice will be most appreciated.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;JGS&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;P.S. What about running the ASURO on a LiPoly battery at 3.7V?  Will that work?&#60;/p&#62;
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			<title>kellerza on "Help Several rfm"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/101#post-439</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>kellerza</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Neat, http://www.rocketnumbernine.com/2009/06/13/bidirectional-level-converter-pcb/ could almost be a 3.3V to 5V level shifting &#38;quot;AnyVoltage&#38;quot; JeePlug :)
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			<title>Jean-Claude on "Help Several rfm"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/101#post-436</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Jean-Claude</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Fascinating stuff - I also found this article: http://www.rocketnumbernine.com/2009/04/10/5v-33v-bidirectional-level-converter/
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			<title>kellerza on "Help Several rfm"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/101#post-431</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>kellerza</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;If you want to connect serial busses (SPI for rf12) I&#38;#39;d suggest bidirectional level shifters&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;A bi-directional level shifter can easily be done with a FET (I use a BS170, TO-92 package), which mounts easily on a port expander board.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;FET bi-directional level shifter:&#60;br /&#62;
  Connect the Gate-PIN to the lower voltage supply/v+/3.3V&#60;br /&#62;
  Connect the Source-PIN to the lower voltage data pin&#60;br /&#62;
  Connect the Drain-PIN to the higher voltage data pin&#60;br /&#62;
  Both circuits must share ground and you need pull-ups on both sides&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;To send data, you have to change mode to output and set value to 1/0 &#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;To receive data with pullups, set the mode to input and set the pin to 1 (activates pullup)&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;These FETs are cheap and quite versatile, connecting it up differently you can easily switch higher voltage/current outputs. Gate on uC, Source on GND, Drain on Load, load connected to higher voltage (5V/12V etc)
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			<title>Tyran on "Help Several rfm"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/101#post-429</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Tyran</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hello can I use several rfm12 at the same time? (yes I know only b provides grouping)&#60;br /&#62;
The idea is a robot passing through and connecting to several receivers then listening theirs response (one at a time of course)...&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;The problem with the rfm12b is the logic level because of the robot and sensors that receive for example output from an opamp so I wanted to keep the 5V there.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;But If I choose the rfm12b can the outputs of the transceivers connect directly to my uC? And on the other way around (controller-&#38;gt;transceiver) I would use a resistor voltage divider.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;Appreciate any help :)&#60;br /&#62;
Thanks :P
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			<title>Jean-Claude on "JeeNode with USB interface"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/24#post-53</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Jean-Claude</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;1) the RFM22 logic is different, and requires a different driver - see also the comments here:&#60;br /&#62;
       http://news.jeelabs.org/2009/08/26/room-plug-design/#comments&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;2) you cannot connect the RFM module directly to a servo controller, neither one would know what to do, you need a microprocessor and software in between&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;3) not on the same radio frequency&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;4) see http://shop.jeelabs.com/pages/shipping&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;5) technically, it could, but the RF12 driver software would need to be adjusted, and it may be too much work for one JeeNode to handle two RFM12B&#38;#39;s at the same time and do something useful with the data streams&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;6) only one I know of, is about the same as a JeeNode: http://code.google.com/p/strobit/&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;7) SPI, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Peripheral_Interface_Bus&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;No, you&#38;#39;re not asking too much, but I suspect that you&#38;#39;re [i]expecting[/i] too much :)&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;Sending servo information and especially streaming video back at the same time will require more cpu power, buffer storage, and RF bandwidth than a basic JeeNode can handle. It may work on a single JeeNode if you send only a very small image every few seconds but even that will take some careful design and use of available resources.
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			<title>decarus on "JeeNode with USB interface"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/24#post-52</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>decarus</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;1) Hmm~~ I&#38;#39;m starting to get how it works. But is it possible to replace ur RFM12B with a RFM22(higher data rate,30Mhz crystal oscillator)?&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;2) (http://www.hoperf.com/pdf/RFM22_transmit_DEMO.pdf) is this the way i should connect the RFM22/12B to the servo controller? The servo controller have 2 connection UART/FTDI &#38;amp; USB. &#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;Let say(example) I have two transceiver. One is connected to the computer&#60;br /&#62;
(RFM22/12B -&#38;gt;JEE-NODE -&#38;gt; USB-BUB[UART]-&#38;gt; Computer[USB]) and another is connected to the servo controller&#60;br /&#62;
(RFM22/12B -&#38;gt;JEE-NODE (necessary?) -&#38;gt; Servo controller[UART interface] )&#60;br /&#62;
is JEE-NODE necessary or can the RFM22/12B connect directly to the uC of the servo controller.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;3)wait~ can one of the transceiver receive and send data at once?(Send command to servo controller while receiving video data from camera)&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;4)How much is the cost of shipping to malaysia? (possible?)&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;5)Can one JEE-NODE control two RFM22/12B?&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;6)IS there any other board that can convert RFM22/12B to UART other than JEE-NODE&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;7)The RFM22/12B pins are too complicated. What kind of pin(interface) is that? &#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;sry if i&#38;#39;m asking too much. :P
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			<title>Jean-Claude on "JeeNode with USB interface"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/24#post-49</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Jean-Claude</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;1) I use a JeeNode (obviously) - with a little USB-BUB board which converts USB to FTDI. The benefit is that you only need one USB connection, and can plug different JeeNodes in as needed.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;2) You could use the Arduino&#38;#39;s &#38;quot;Servo&#38;quot; library, which would work with up to 8 servo&#38;#39;s on the JeeNode I/O pins. For more servo&#38;#39;s I&#38;#39;d use the (upcoming) &#38;quot;Expander Plug&#38;quot;, but for really precise control a dedicated I2C or serial controller such as the one you mention is no doubt better.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;For the cameras, you have to be careful with the amounts of data you want to buffer and send. I&#38;#39;ve been able to get a C328 going, but only at very low resolutions because of the amount of data involved. This is one of the reasons why I&#38;#39;m adding extra memory via I2C EEPROM chips.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;Good luck with your project :)
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			<title>decarus on "JeeNode with USB interface"</title>
			<link>http://talk.jeelabs.net/topic/24#post-48</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>decarus</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi.JeeNode has caught my attention cause it uses the RFM12B. I&#38;#39;ve seen the &#38;quot;Building the JeeNode v3&#38;quot; but that required a etched PCB.&#60;br /&#62;
my question is:&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;1) How to make the RFM12B connect to a computer via usb (does it need to have a uC)&#60;br /&#62;
2) How to make the RFM12B connect to a servo controller(http://www.cytron.com.my/datasheet/ServoController/SC16A_User%27s_Manual.pdf).&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;my purpose is to make a wireless connection between the computer and the servo controller using two RFM12B. If possible a camera too =D.&#60;/p&#62;

&#60;p&#62;any help would be greatly appreciated.. thank you
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